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dana, we know reid is on board, nancy pelosi is on board. mitch mcconnell, has he definitely signed off to this deal? >> yes. he actually was an early signer of the deal. because he, of course, was the point person on the republican side. i should say, i said yes pretty definitively. behind me, you see a gaggle of reporters, and he's probably going to be mad at me for doing this, but that's mitch mcconnell's spokes person talking to people about what's going on. hopefully i won't be proven wrong, but it's hard to believe i will. mitch mcconnell wient to the floor hours and hours ago saying as far as he was concerned, he and the president had a deal except forsequester, which we now know is resolved. it's hard to imagine he's not on board. the question is how many republicans are going to vote for this? that really does matter not so much in whether it's going to pass the senate, but more importantly, its fate in the house. we talked a lot about from early on when the talks were with the house speaker and the president. that a big hurdle alwa
dana, we know reid is on board, nancy pelosi is on board. mitch mcconnell, has he definitely signed off to this deal? >> yes. he actually was an early signer of the deal. because he, of course, was the point person on the republican side. i should say, i said yes pretty definitively. behind me, you see a gaggle of reporters, and he's probably going to be mad at me for doing this, but that's mitch mcconnell's spokes person talking to people about what's going on. hopefully i won't be...
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we have nancy pelosi, looks like her chief of staff with her. seems that may be a sign that the meeting has broken up. we also heard some reports that perhaps speaker boehner may have left the meeting. i want to do a quick question to both of you as we're sort of watching these folks depart. on the fiscal cliff, i'm going to just make it real simple and start with you dana and go to you, jonathan. deal or no deal? are we going to get a deal, dana? >> well, they're going to have to eventually. the question is -- >> maybe not. not with these guys. you never know. >> any prediction is perilous here. but it's always struck me, if it is going to be, it's going to be at the very last second or after we go over the cliff. >> jonathan, are we going to come out on the drive way and sing kumbaya? >> i doubt it given the video you just showed. that's not minority leader pelosi heading to the microphones in the driveway. it looks like she's on west executive drive trying to get the hell out of dodge. >> looking for her car. that's right. >> which could be a
we have nancy pelosi, looks like her chief of staff with her. seems that may be a sign that the meeting has broken up. we also heard some reports that perhaps speaker boehner may have left the meeting. i want to do a quick question to both of you as we're sort of watching these folks depart. on the fiscal cliff, i'm going to just make it real simple and start with you dana and go to you, jonathan. deal or no deal? are we going to get a deal, dana? >> well, they're going to have to...
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and, look, he even pals around with nancy pelosi. didn't we just fire her? >> didn't you see those loving looks? >> you know, real quick on that. the interesting thing, if i were to pivot off of that caption of him and nancy together because that's what the people are looking for. that partnership working, getting things done. >> but they were talking about global warming. >> the other thing about that ad, that was symbolic of the entire mitt romney campaign strategy in the primaries. which was a take-no-prisoners attack policy. it just showed that mitt romney had tons of money and some very clever consultants who could carve up anybody in his path. that left him with a lot of making up to do once he secured the nomination. the way he got the nomination is typified by that ad showed weakness in this camp. >> let's go back to the strategy, which it was. somebody is going to be the republican nominee and that person is going to be obama. therefore, all you have to be is there. >> and as he just noted and as neil sodacca made famous, making up is hard to do. th
and, look, he even pals around with nancy pelosi. didn't we just fire her? >> didn't you see those loving looks? >> you know, real quick on that. the interesting thing, if i were to pivot off of that caption of him and nancy together because that's what the people are looking for. that partnership working, getting things done. >> but they were talking about global warming. >> the other thing about that ad, that was symbolic of the entire mitt romney campaign strategy in...
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i spoke with one republican aide that said nancy pelosi would have to add a lot of votes. a bill could come over from the senate and if there is a problem amongst house republicans or enough of them object, john boehner could amend it and send it back to the senate. from the house. that would put it in delay. >> they have all day tomorrow to work it out. one last thing i've been told that some could make the sale to members at 12:01 a.m. that any deal that comes over from the senate would be voting -- not voting for a tax hike, would be voting to cut taxes because then we're over the cliff and everything would expire. so interesting optics. i think it should be really known by folks watching tonight just because something is going to come out of the senate late tonight, early tomorrow morning, there's no guarantee it has a clear way forward. it's without some sort of drama at the very end. >> we thank them for their updates, as well, at 7:10 here on the east coast. the drama continues. we should also make one more quick note about what's going on with hillary clinton becau
i spoke with one republican aide that said nancy pelosi would have to add a lot of votes. a bill could come over from the senate and if there is a problem amongst house republicans or enough of them object, john boehner could amend it and send it back to the senate. from the house. that would put it in delay. >> they have all day tomorrow to work it out. one last thing i've been told that some could make the sale to members at 12:01 a.m. that any deal that comes over from the senate would...
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speaker nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. in just four years they have done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possible congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the actual house ethics committee for further review, meaning that in those 37 cases, the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and sometimes federal laws were likely violated. so why exactly does congress want to kill it? well, actually, that's hard to say. folks like these who have in the past voted to cut the oce budget or limit its powers refused to talk to us. for those who would talk, opinions were mixed. >> i think it's important there be some way for the public, for someone outside of congress to raise issues about the conduct of members of congress. one of the things that -- is it oce, oce has sent to the ethics committee was actually pretty flimsy. >> i supported it the first time, i'll support it again. >> i don't think it's working well. >> is there anything oce has do
speaker nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. in just four years they have done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possible congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the actual house ethics committee for further review, meaning that in those 37 cases, the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and sometimes federal laws were likely violated. so why exactly does congress want to kill it? well,...
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he has reached out to majority leader reid, and nancy pelosi, to sign off. they gave it. so the white house right now feeling quite confident about this agreement that has been reached. of course, we're talking about the opposition that has been emerging from the left, including labor leaders, he says it is not good enough, why? because the tax rates are not the ones that president obama campaigned on. remember the president campaigned saying that he wanted to see taxes going up on those making $250,000 or more. this of course raises taxes on people making $400,000 or more, if you're single, $450,000 for a couple. so folks on the left saying this is not good enough. but the white house, mitch mcconnell, vice president joe biden believes it is a good deal because it represents compromise on all sides. i also spoke to one of my democratic sources who said look, if you look at the way the sequester has worked out, yes, it has only staved off for two months. however, they are off setting the cuts both through revenue as well as spending cuts. the reason democrats believe it i
he has reached out to majority leader reid, and nancy pelosi, to sign off. they gave it. so the white house right now feeling quite confident about this agreement that has been reached. of course, we're talking about the opposition that has been emerging from the left, including labor leaders, he says it is not good enough, why? because the tax rates are not the ones that president obama campaigned on. remember the president campaigned saying that he wanted to see taxes going up on those making...
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and again, president obama tonight calling harry reid, nancy pelosi to make sure that they both signed off on this deal, which they have. so now we have the vice president who is just arriving at the hill. he is going to sit down with the democratic caucus, sell this deal to the caucus, answer their questions, answer their concerns. but, again, the broad outlines of the deal have been agreed upon by all the major players who are involved in this. of course, vice president biden has been playing a critical role in these negotiations, really the entire time. but especially since saturday when leader mcconnell reached out to him and asked him to get more engaged, which he did. and that is really when we saw this ball move forward. and now it appears inching closer by the hour to the end game. so, again, president obama reaching out to key leaders on the hill, making sure that they agree with this deal. and it appears at this hour that they do. and vice president biden now going to sell to it the caucus. milissa? >> all right, kristen welker, stand by for us, if you please. let's go to nbc
and again, president obama tonight calling harry reid, nancy pelosi to make sure that they both signed off on this deal, which they have. so now we have the vice president who is just arriving at the hill. he is going to sit down with the democratic caucus, sell this deal to the caucus, answer their questions, answer their concerns. but, again, the broad outlines of the deal have been agreed upon by all the major players who are involved in this. of course, vice president biden has been playing...
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president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it
president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m.,...
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if we can figure this out, you know that john boehner and nancy pelosi and the wimps in the chambers are trying to figure it out. the right combination of the income threshold for tax increases with entitlement cuts, we haven't found it. the theory that republicans only want to pass something with the majority, that worked for haster when he was speaker. it's hard to see what kind of tax increase will get a majority of republicans and bring along enough democrats. boehner couldn't pass a million dollar tax increase. why do we think he can get something out of the house if they lower it to 400,000 or 500,000. we are skeptical that they can come together with the solution in the next five or six days. >> marty, we spent a lot of time talking about the house. what is mitch mcconnell thinking in the senate? >> he is a fascinating part of this. first of all, he is probably going to vote against any deal that raises taxes. whether he actively whips against it or lets it go, there is a number of senate republicans who seem open to upper income tax increases. some of the new england moderate
if we can figure this out, you know that john boehner and nancy pelosi and the wimps in the chambers are trying to figure it out. the right combination of the income threshold for tax increases with entitlement cuts, we haven't found it. the theory that republicans only want to pass something with the majority, that worked for haster when he was speaker. it's hard to see what kind of tax increase will get a majority of republicans and bring along enough democrats. boehner couldn't pass a...
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what we know on the house side, both nancy pelosi, in charge of the democrats in the house and house speaker john boehner have been kept in the loop throughout. important because once the senate deals with this, it would go to the house. now, what we do expect in talking to a number of democrats tonight, some have put on coats and scarves and were going to lay down for a little while, waiting for the word to come back. others still think a vote can happen tonight. but tonight might not be defined by the final hour of 2012, but instead whatever time in the wee hours that document can get ready and get to the senate floor. so many people who work in the capitol who are not directly involved, from those who operate the trains that get from building to building to staffers on the senate floor to keep things moving to security, so many people working waiting for this to be resolved. political arguments and disappointments within the democratic side as we expect there to be among republicans as well. no deal gets everything people want. there are come radio mizes for people. and this is a
what we know on the house side, both nancy pelosi, in charge of the democrats in the house and house speaker john boehner have been kept in the loop throughout. important because once the senate deals with this, it would go to the house. now, what we do expect in talking to a number of democrats tonight, some have put on coats and scarves and were going to lay down for a little while, waiting for the word to come back. others still think a vote can happen tonight. but tonight might not be...
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by the way, i would give some advice to speaker boehner, he needs to talk to nancy pelosi. when nancy pelosi was speaker, she found a way even with maximum republican opposition to bring her diverse caucus. that is a caucus with diverse views together to get things done like the affordable care act. like dodd frank. she got it done. >> that's great advice, and we hope he listens. >> i hope so. >> thank you so much, my friend. >> my pleasure. >>> let's turn to ryan grim. mr. grim, the jobless are really the only segment of the population who get an immediate hit if we go over the fiscal cliff. doesn't this strike even what appears to be heartless politicians that the people most vulnerable are working class and working poor and middle class people who will get stiffed by this? >> yeah, the jobless have been getting pushed around by congress for years now, you know, ever since the economic crisis. and they implemented some extended emergency benefits they've been getting told that if they give them unemployment it will make them lazy and they will not look for jobs. states ha
by the way, i would give some advice to speaker boehner, he needs to talk to nancy pelosi. when nancy pelosi was speaker, she found a way even with maximum republican opposition to bring her diverse caucus. that is a caucus with diverse views together to get things done like the affordable care act. like dodd frank. she got it done. >> that's great advice, and we hope he listens. >> i hope so. >> thank you so much, my friend. >> my pleasure. >>> let's turn to...
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and specifically would any speaker, whether it's john boehner, nancy pelosi or anybody else, allow a bill to pass like this, especially one that violates four republican party doctrine that would raise taxes, would they allow it to -- and the answer to that is probably not. democrats have alleged for week now what john bain ser doing is waiting until the gavel is safely in his hands for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but probably the thing that make the most sense is the fact that then it becomes a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans, instead of allowing them to rise for 1% or 2%. that is something logically the republicans would probably or more likely go along with, though at this point who knows where we'll end up with on this thing. january 3rd is the new congress. in the days after that, that's the inertia it scenario. >> gentlemen, thanks so that. i appreciate it. >>> we want to bring in today's panel s perry bacon, democratic strategy margie omero, and chip saltzmann. i want to talk about with what stev
and specifically would any speaker, whether it's john boehner, nancy pelosi or anybody else, allow a bill to pass like this, especially one that violates four republican party doctrine that would raise taxes, would they allow it to -- and the answer to that is probably not. democrats have alleged for week now what john bain ser doing is waiting until the gavel is safely in his hands for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but...
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that was nancy pelosi's solution. raise taxes on those earning a million dollars or more. not one democrat agreed to vote for it. >> let's talk about that plan brk. it was not successful. hastert had some unkind words saying i don't want to be critical of john, but you don't ever bring something to the floor if you don't have the votes. did the speaker miscalculate and do you think he'll be challenged for the speakership? >> no, he's not going to be challenged for the speakership. he didn't bring it to the floor. he decided not to, but he could have if they had had even 30 democrats willing to say i'll do what nancy pelosi said we should do and that plan brk would have passed. it would have demonstrated we were willing to put revenue on the table and got the wheels gree greased a little bit for a negotiation. >> john harwood tweeted this. he said gop house members and colleagues, i blame most of this on a block of about 50 members who have the political judgment god gave a goose. do you think the far right of your party is a big part of the problem in washington right now?
that was nancy pelosi's solution. raise taxes on those earning a million dollars or more. not one democrat agreed to vote for it. >> let's talk about that plan brk. it was not successful. hastert had some unkind words saying i don't want to be critical of john, but you don't ever bring something to the floor if you don't have the votes. did the speaker miscalculate and do you think he'll be challenged for the speakership? >> no, he's not going to be challenged for the speakership....
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pelosi said they would consider the plan, although nancy pelosi did not go as far as to endorse it. what can we expect in terms of the house as far as how we can receive this? >> i've got to tell you, the veteran congressional watcher, i am fascinated to see what the house is going to do. here's the argument republican leaders made in the senate and are likely to make in the house tomorrow. yes, this is a horrible bill for us. we're asking many of you to vote against fundamental, a very basic tenant of your political belief, your philosophy, and that is never to vote, to raise taxes in any way, shape or form although technically, we should -- >> i just want to cut you off to report the breaking news that the senate has now approved this budget deal. so, based on that new information that we have, what happens now? explain to us where this goes? >> sure, it goes to the house of representatives. this does not take effect, obviously, until both the senate and house have voted on identical pieces of legislation. so the question is will the house take up this identical piece of legislati
pelosi said they would consider the plan, although nancy pelosi did not go as far as to endorse it. what can we expect in terms of the house as far as how we can receive this? >> i've got to tell you, the veteran congressional watcher, i am fascinated to see what the house is going to do. here's the argument republican leaders made in the senate and are likely to make in the house tomorrow. yes, this is a horrible bill for us. we're asking many of you to vote against fundamental, a very...
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pelosi said we should do. and that plan "b" would have passed. it would have demonstrated we were willing to put revenue on the table and got the wheels greased a little bit for a negotiation. >> john harwood tweeted this. he said gop house members and colleagues, i blame most of this on a block of about 50 members who have the political judgment god gave a goose. do you think the far right of your party is a big part of the problem in washington right now? >> i think the extremes on both sides are a big part of the problem right now. and i've got a lot of respect for the men and women who are representing voters in their district who are telling them this. but we have to look at a broader reason why we're having members of congress coming from the perimeters. we can talk about gerrymandering of districts and the whole political process that has brought us to this place. those are the type of reforms long term that will get the congress working correctly again. >> it's a great and important point. thank you fo
pelosi said we should do. and that plan "b" would have passed. it would have demonstrated we were willing to put revenue on the table and got the wheels greased a little bit for a negotiation. >> john harwood tweeted this. he said gop house members and colleagues, i blame most of this on a block of about 50 members who have the political judgment god gave a goose. do you think the far right of your party is a big part of the problem in washington right now? >> i think the...
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at the same time, i watched nancy pelosi lead the charge against the bush tax cuts that ultimately now they want to keep 98% of. the truth is if we go over the cliff on a tax basis, we're only going back to the clinton era taxes. if we don't change spending, we're going to stay over the cliff. even if we go back to the clinton tax rates, the clinton tax rates, which is what the cliff is described as, you still have nearly half a trillion dollars a year, $5 trillion over ten years worth of deficit. that's because while we grew the -- under bush the taxes revenue went up 25%, and spending went up 100% in the last 12 years. if you put back the revenue from the higher taxes, you still have a deficit. that's what we're trying to change. >> we kind of are where we are, and no one is talking about spending cuts. they're talking about keeps taxes low, which everybody agrees. let me ask a specific question first to the democrats here. if they came out with with a deal that said, all right, we will keep tax rates for those making $400,000 or less, would you vote for na? >> candy, i'm willing to
at the same time, i watched nancy pelosi lead the charge against the bush tax cuts that ultimately now they want to keep 98% of. the truth is if we go over the cliff on a tax basis, we're only going back to the clinton era taxes. if we don't change spending, we're going to stay over the cliff. even if we go back to the clinton tax rates, the clinton tax rates, which is what the cliff is described as, you still have nearly half a trillion dollars a year, $5 trillion over ten years worth of...
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nancy pelosi when the white house asked her to get votes she is very good at it. she got votes for the budget control act, for health care. there should be no reason she shouldn't be able to get the votes today. with vice president biden coming to capitol hill it rests the nerves of any anxious democrats who don't like the deal because they don't like the $400,000 threshold and would prefer 250 and also feel the president was losing some negotiating leverage. biden being here, pelosi onboard it should be okay on the house democratic side. >> you are often privy to juicy little nuggets of behind-the-scenes information. do you have any thoughts on how vice president biden became so key to all of this? >> well, i think there is a basic trust factor that mitch mcconnell has with joe biden. they served together for over 20 years. they know each other. from a lot of conversations i had especially with the older bulls i sort of call them, they say joe biden is a guy you can do business with. that the president doesn't understand how to negotiate room to room, you know, p
nancy pelosi when the white house asked her to get votes she is very good at it. she got votes for the budget control act, for health care. there should be no reason she shouldn't be able to get the votes today. with vice president biden coming to capitol hill it rests the nerves of any anxious democrats who don't like the deal because they don't like the $400,000 threshold and would prefer 250 and also feel the president was losing some negotiating leverage. biden being here, pelosi onboard it...
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support it. >> nancy pelosi has signed off on it. it's up to john boehner to deliver his votes and can he do it without amending it, we do not know at this time. >> all right, luke. thank you very much. >> take care. >> we'll see you soon, i'm sure. >> indeed. >>> well, there's already been grumbling about this senate legislation from both sides of the aisle, but texas republican senator kay bailey hutchison says that is the essence of compromise. >> i don't love it, but i think it is a very good job of negotiating where there are some wins and some losses, and it's about even. >> with me now, the agreeos political editor parry bacon and lynn sweet, washington bureau chief for "the chicago sun ti s times." lynn, we kept rerunning this video of you yesterday with speaker boehner walking along with your little pad. i don't know when that was from, but i saw you like 500 times yesterday. >> that was from the day before yesterday, prenew year, right there coming out of the caucus. anyway, happy new year, chris. >> happy new year! so, wha
support it. >> nancy pelosi has signed off on it. it's up to john boehner to deliver his votes and can he do it without amending it, we do not know at this time. >> all right, luke. thank you very much. >> take care. >> we'll see you soon, i'm sure. >> indeed. >>> well, there's already been grumbling about this senate legislation from both sides of the aisle, but texas republican senator kay bailey hutchison says that is the essence of compromise. >>...
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and here's where nancy pelosi comes in. if you've got about 30 republicans, it could actually pass. >> good afternoon, everyone. i've been working with leaders to try to forge an agreement to grow our economy and shrink the deficit. a balanced plan that would cut spending a responsible way, but also ask the wealthiest americans to pay a little more and protect the middle class and everyone striving to get into the middle class. i still want to get this cone. it's the right thing for our families. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. we're now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american's paycheck will get considerably smaller. and that would be the wrong thing to do. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesses that depend on family spending. forchew nat ew fortunately, con can prevent it from happening. i just had a good discussion about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be
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at least so far as nancy pelosi is concerned. you can see this tape. she obviously has left the meeting. john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick erickson, editor-in-chief of. they are saying, hey, we don't have to compromise. we have more people in congress coming in that are democrats. the president doesn't have to give on that $250,000 top. where do you stand on this? do you think the president does or should compromise up to -- particularly on the tax issue? >> you can't be a democrat and ask republicans to compromise if you don't want to give up something. i think the president clearly understood that. so when he laid the $250,000 out, he gave himself some room because, again, you saw speaker boehner's
at least so far as nancy pelosi is concerned. you can see this tape. she obviously has left the meeting. john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick...
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so nancy pelosi stepping to the podium. let's take a quick listen. >> well, we just finished a standing room only, three-hour long caucus meeting, which -- in which the vice president not only roused the entire membership, but also gave us a very thoughtful and detailed explanation of what has gone on, and how it was that he and the president, working with the democratic and republican leaders in both houses, were able to come together on this compromise. we first want to say thank you to the vice president for being so gracious. quite honestly, so frank in his conversation with us in explaining as much as he could about what has transpired over the last several weeks. we now are waiting to hear from our republican colleagues, whether or not they want to do what the senate did, in a very bipartisan fashion. and give the american people an opportunity to have a vote. there are people throughout this country who might look at this deal and love it, some might hate it, some may not understand it. but we firmly believe that eve
so nancy pelosi stepping to the podium. let's take a quick listen. >> well, we just finished a standing room only, three-hour long caucus meeting, which -- in which the vice president not only roused the entire membership, but also gave us a very thoughtful and detailed explanation of what has gone on, and how it was that he and the president, working with the democratic and republican leaders in both houses, were able to come together on this compromise. we first want to say thank you to...
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this is nancy pelosi from march of this year. go ahead. >> i says let's begin by getting rid of tax cuts for people making over a million dollars a year. i'm not even saying 250. >> i know. >> the president is saying 250. i'm saying a million and above. who can argue with that? >> so who can argue with that? >> well, the question was whether -- >> only the democrats -- >> the issue is who could argue with over a million dollars and obviously in the house, the republicans didn't even agree with their own speaker on a million dollars. look, the president, as we all know, as part of a larger agreement has said 400,000 should be the threshold as part of a larger agreement. the issue is the balance between the cuts and the revenue and what we have called for is balance. republicans in the house have refused even one penny so far from people earning more than a million dollars. >> which is your position -- so let me ask you, as i recall, when boehner proposed this -- a million dollars and above your answer was not just no but hell no.
this is nancy pelosi from march of this year. go ahead. >> i says let's begin by getting rid of tax cuts for people making over a million dollars a year. i'm not even saying 250. >> i know. >> the president is saying 250. i'm saying a million and above. who can argue with that? >> so who can argue with that? >> well, the question was whether -- >> only the democrats -- >> the issue is who could argue with over a million dollars and obviously in the...
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senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader, mitch mcconnell, john boehner and nancy pelosi. all four met at the white house yesterday afternoon with the president and vice president. and jessica yellin is our chief white house correspondent, and jessica, the president used his bully pulpit after that meeting to sort of reinforce the idea that senators need to get busy. so let's give that a listen first. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is dejavu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> jessica, you were in the room for the president's remarks and he said he was optimistic but he was also clearly a bit ticked off. so i'm wondering about this waiting until the last minute, the weekend, to get this all done. what is the
senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader, mitch mcconnell, john boehner and nancy pelosi. all four met at the white house yesterday afternoon with the president and vice president. and jessica yellin is our chief white house correspondent, and jessica, the president used his bully pulpit after that meeting to sort of reinforce the idea that senators need to get busy. so let's give that a listen first. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience...
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. >> nancy pelosi tried to do that and the signature is not there. chuck hegel was a colleague of yours. are you surprised about the criticism he received from the left and the right being the possible nominee for president obama in the obama administration in the second term? >> hegel used on foreign policy, but he hasn't received a lot of criticism. how much of that is justified? i can't tell you. >> senator from vermont, we thank you for joining us the day after christmas. >> joining us to talk big picture and the president's second term cabinet, nbc editor mark murray was the december employee of the month. congratulations. >> excuse me. you heard from senator sanders saying the lack of urgency hasn't been a problem, but if you look at it for all intents and purposes, boehner removed himself from these discussions. harry reid, president obama, and a little bit of mitch mcconnell. what is possible of making a deal? >> the ball seems to be in mitch mcconnell's court. does he filibuster anything that harry reid ends up making with president obama? w
. >> nancy pelosi tried to do that and the signature is not there. chuck hegel was a colleague of yours. are you surprised about the criticism he received from the left and the right being the possible nominee for president obama in the obama administration in the second term? >> hegel used on foreign policy, but he hasn't received a lot of criticism. how much of that is justified? i can't tell you. >> senator from vermont, we thank you for joining us the day after christmas....
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pelosi can corral the democrats, they need to pick off republicans. we don't know if any of them would vote for something like this. john boehner is ready to strike a deal. i'm not sure many others are. in the senate we have seen a number of conservative republicans saying they would vote. >> 20 republican votes? >> at this point it's very hard to say. i think john boehner would probably be trying to go in that direction if he could. we haven't seen enough house republicans come out yet and say they would support tax increases. if you have tom coal who broke with his party leadership and the party ranks about three weeks ago or so. we haven't seen enough say they would. i don't know that that's the right deal for that to try to strike. >> one of the strategies that republicans could very well allow us to go off the fiscal cliff. a few weeks into january they decide to take the vote on lowering taxes. lowering the race so they can say you know what, we voted to lower taxes. >> that's something that has been talked about. a lot of people were concerned
pelosi can corral the democrats, they need to pick off republicans. we don't know if any of them would vote for something like this. john boehner is ready to strike a deal. i'm not sure many others are. in the senate we have seen a number of conservative republicans saying they would vote. >> 20 republican votes? >> at this point it's very hard to say. i think john boehner would probably be trying to go in that direction if he could. we haven't seen enough house republicans come out...
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pelosi to get moderate democrats onboard. again, we are talking about very symbolic things. i think john boehner is far more interested in preserving his speakership, waiting until we go over the cliff and everyone can blame each other all the way through. it would be better for everyone if we didn't have discussions about social insurance and/or entitlements at gunpoint with two days to >> that's the views from -- a very -- very strong conservative voice. >> that's giving the president a lot of credit here. the president wants a deal, doesn't want to go into the second term, january with the fiscal cliff looming and dealing with the cpi or, you know, raising the medicare eligibility. doesn't want the discussions to cloud up his other agenda, rest of his agenda, things like immigration. gun control if that does survive into the new year. so -- right now looking at some of the things that have been floated -- that -- that harvard from reported basically that's the president getting stimulus aspects of it. the payroll taxes is
pelosi to get moderate democrats onboard. again, we are talking about very symbolic things. i think john boehner is far more interested in preserving his speakership, waiting until we go over the cliff and everyone can blame each other all the way through. it would be better for everyone if we didn't have discussions about social insurance and/or entitlements at gunpoint with two days to >> that's the views from -- a very -- very strong conservative voice. >> that's giving the...
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>> well, the house democratic leader nancy pelosi will sign off on a final deal. >> pelosi, okay. >> you can agree that she's not around this table right now, but if the men are reporting major progress, which senate republicans say they had overnight, i think you'll take that. but to pick up on eamon's point what all this means -- >> so, none. >> -- it really pollutes the first 100 days for president obama. the flip side to what joe said earlier when he was calling in from someplace sunny when he said that none of this made major progress. what this means is there's this huge overhang into next year when president obama outlined yesterday on "meet the press" for david gregory his top five priorities for 2013. this makes it much harder, makes that much harder to do something on guns, to do something on immigration, to do real tax reform, to do infrastructure spending. now he has to deal with all the coming calamities, the new cliffs that are going to set up, even if there is some sort of a deal tonight. >> yeah, and don't forget, guys, we've also got the continuing resolution that ex
>> well, the house democratic leader nancy pelosi will sign off on a final deal. >> pelosi, okay. >> you can agree that she's not around this table right now, but if the men are reporting major progress, which senate republicans say they had overnight, i think you'll take that. but to pick up on eamon's point what all this means -- >> so, none. >> -- it really pollutes the first 100 days for president obama. the flip side to what joe said earlier when he was...
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the minority puts up their chosen leader, this time nancy pelosi. it's usually pro forma, but this time it has a real weight to it, because one of the reasons we're in this situation right now is because we're waiting for john boehner to be reelected to speaker of the house before they make a move, because only if 16 or 17 republicans don't vote for the guy, he could lose. they just want to wait. >> that's, i think, a point we've all been missing here is that after plan b's gone down, there seems to be some thinking, especially in boehner land, that we don't want our fingerprints on anything that could lead to some sort of conservative ensue su sure. >> it would be very embarra embarrassing. republicans voting for someone else or abstaining, they would have to probably shut the whole house down, have a whole meeting, drum up the votes. it would be very embarrassing and i think you're also seeing it on the senate side, mitch mcconnell is thinking, senate minority leader, if john boehner doesn't want his fingerprints on something, why do i want my fin
the minority puts up their chosen leader, this time nancy pelosi. it's usually pro forma, but this time it has a real weight to it, because one of the reasons we're in this situation right now is because we're waiting for john boehner to be reelected to speaker of the house before they make a move, because only if 16 or 17 republicans don't vote for the guy, he could lose. they just want to wait. >> that's, i think, a point we've all been missing here is that after plan b's gone down,...
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nancy pelosi bringing war funding bills to the house floor during the bush administration. not because she loved the idea of continuing the wars in afghanistan and iraq but because she saw that was a priority that needed to move whether or not it was going to have a lot of democratic votes. >> amazing. you think of all those things in the senate. the farm bill had enough republican support over there. never brought up in the house. it's a tough thing to do for john boehner. john allen, thank you so much for joining us. looking forward to the book about hillary and concussion-dpat. it will be interesting. next, as a new senator gets swarn in today, the fight from john kerry is reading up. >>> topping the headlines on andrea mitchell reports, former president george h.w. bush has been moved to the intensive care unit of a houston hospital where he's been battling a cough since november. the 88-year-old was moved to the icu recently after a foout few setbacks including a persistent fever. doctors are optimistic. >>> another member of president obama's administration is steppin
nancy pelosi bringing war funding bills to the house floor during the bush administration. not because she loved the idea of continuing the wars in afghanistan and iraq but because she saw that was a priority that needed to move whether or not it was going to have a lot of democratic votes. >> amazing. you think of all those things in the senate. the farm bill had enough republican support over there. never brought up in the house. it's a tough thing to do for john boehner. john allen,...
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nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. the oce has done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possibly congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the twauld house ethics committee for further review meaning in those 37 cases the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and federal laws were likely violated. so why does congress want to kill it? actually that's hard to say. folks like these who have in the past voted to cut the oce budget refused to talk to us. for those who would talk, opinions were mixed. >> i think it's important that there be some way for the public or someone outside of congress to raise issues about the conduct of members of congress. some of the things that oce has sent to the ethics committee was actually pretty flimsy. >> i supported it the first time, i'll support it again. >> is there anything oce has done specifically that might have rubbed the congress the wrong way to the point where they wouldn't want to get it g
nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. the oce has done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possibly congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the twauld house ethics committee for further review meaning in those 37 cases the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and federal laws were likely violated. so why does congress want to kill it? actually that's hard to say. folks like these who have in...
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that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. i just have to repeat. you know, outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern, over and over again. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i
that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last...
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pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would get all of this behind us before new year's eve. how likely does that sound? not so likely. >> you and i are both kind of laughing abo
pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the...
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or nancy pelosi saying you have to pass the bill to know what's in it. i don't think any republican ought to be touching this stuff. >> mr. speaker, hold on for a second. alley vels i velshi is with us. >> speaker, sorry to bother you while you're on vacation. listen, you called this an artificial creation of washington. you have actually suggested the many things that make up the fiscal cliff be divided up and tackles separately. i want you to listen to what president obama said earlier today and get your comment on it. let's listen to this. >> we're going to solve this problem instead in several steps. >> speaker gingrich, do you think this is the way to do it? we're at an impasse. are we going to do that? >> we're going to solve it in several steps. why aren't people trying to solve it a few hours before midnight on new year's eve? everybody knows you can retroactively -- the president could instruct the treasury tomorrow morning to hold all withholding rates at the current amount on the presumption that they have reroactively to january 1st fixed the
or nancy pelosi saying you have to pass the bill to know what's in it. i don't think any republican ought to be touching this stuff. >> mr. speaker, hold on for a second. alley vels i velshi is with us. >> speaker, sorry to bother you while you're on vacation. listen, you called this an artificial creation of washington. you have actually suggested the many things that make up the fiscal cliff be divided up and tackles separately. i want you to listen to what president obama said...
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pelosi, with speaker boehner. and there's one source who's familiar with these negotiations who said mitch mcconnell is a savvy politician. he would not have signed off on this deal if he didn't think it had a very strong chance of making its way through the house. and remember also, chris, this passed with broad bipartisan support, 89 votes. so, that is going to make it easier for speaker boehner to say to his conference, look, this passed with broad bipartisan support in the senate. this is not a perfect deal, but we should pass this deal. there's also a careful political calculation going on here, chris, which is that the white house, the democrats are essentially making house republicans own this at this now way beyond the 12th hour. we're beyond the deadline at this point. and that is to say that if house republicans were to vote against it, if it weren't to make its way through the house, they would own that failure, they would be responsible for taxes going up on all americans. so, there's a lot of pressure
pelosi, with speaker boehner. and there's one source who's familiar with these negotiations who said mitch mcconnell is a savvy politician. he would not have signed off on this deal if he didn't think it had a very strong chance of making its way through the house. and remember also, chris, this passed with broad bipartisan support, 89 votes. so, that is going to make it easier for speaker boehner to say to his conference, look, this passed with broad bipartisan support in the senate. this is...
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one is nancy pelosi because compared to john boehner i would say she looks like the greatest speaker of the house of all time. not un, surprisingly, mitt romney, because even though i'm sure he would rather be president, at least he doesn't deal with the mess himself. next on my list, rich people. we don't know what the deal looks like but you can bet they're on top in some way. they always do. and finally, toure, speak for yourself. i feel like a winner because as much as it is lame at work today, i would rather be here than in congress where i was trying to be so there you go. >> that's one way of spinning it. >> it's a -- i'm going to just kind of duck the question here. i don't want to get in to the winners and losers thing but a comment because i'm trying to piece it together over the last few days and months and i'm honestly and we'll see the final count tour contours of this an first reaction is what was the last year and a half all about? it looked like a pivot point in the presidency at the end of the deet ceiling showdown and the instinct in the wake of the 2010 mid terms i
one is nancy pelosi because compared to john boehner i would say she looks like the greatest speaker of the house of all time. not un, surprisingly, mitt romney, because even though i'm sure he would rather be president, at least he doesn't deal with the mess himself. next on my list, rich people. we don't know what the deal looks like but you can bet they're on top in some way. they always do. and finally, toure, speak for yourself. i feel like a winner because as much as it is lame at work...
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pelosi gave and they were ridiculed in that. and we had john mccain and his ambivalence on the floor. and then we saw mitch mcconnell coming up saying, yes, mr. president, you have been bashing us for weeks, let's vote on those tax rates. mitch mcconnell said let's do that and we'll leave the sequester aside. we'll let it kick into place. we'll tackle that whenever we get back here to washington after the inauguration and the state of the union and all that fun stuff. so that's where we stand right now. that does remain the last sticking point. >> luke, jump in here. what do you have to add that mike has already told us. >> well, mike viqueira is 12, 13 years of experience on capitol hill, so there's not much more to add after that. what i will say is i don't think that we can dismiss a lot of the anger on the republican side at the president's remarks today. i have gotten a ton of e-mails from republican aides saying the president is holding the middle class tax cuts that were agreed to hostage. i think if you take a step back,
pelosi gave and they were ridiculed in that. and we had john mccain and his ambivalence on the floor. and then we saw mitch mcconnell coming up saying, yes, mr. president, you have been bashing us for weeks, let's vote on those tax rates. mitch mcconnell said let's do that and we'll leave the sequester aside. we'll let it kick into place. we'll tackle that whenever we get back here to washington after the inauguration and the state of the union and all that fun stuff. so that's where we stand...
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plan b was a plan that was advocated by nancy pelosi, was advocated by chuck schumer less than two years ago. they said that what we should do is raise taxes on people that make a million dollars or above. there were only 50 house republicans who said they were not going to vote for plan b. you couldn't even get 50 house democrats to vote for something like that, to send somethi to the senate and then the senate could maybe raise taxes on people that make less than that. so don't blame the republicans when it's the democrats that are unwilling to work on anything. when the president said that he wanted to look at chain cpi -- >> that's the -- >> that's a nonstarter. >> changing the way social security payments are attached to the cost of living. >> the democrats in the senate are divided on what that tax rate should be as well as on taxes on small business as well as the death tax. they are very divided on this issue. >> the estate tax. yeah. so let me have you answer that. i have another subject i want to bring up. do you think there will be a deal and that most taxes will not go up? >>
plan b was a plan that was advocated by nancy pelosi, was advocated by chuck schumer less than two years ago. they said that what we should do is raise taxes on people that make a million dollars or above. there were only 50 house republicans who said they were not going to vote for plan b. you couldn't even get 50 house democrats to vote for something like that, to send somethi to the senate and then the senate could maybe raise taxes on people that make less than that. so don't blame the...
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so what you're going to see is at noon, nancy pelosi is going to talk to the house democratic caucus. there have been some rumors that joe biden could come up here on new year's day to sell the plan, very much like he did to the senate ds earlier this morning. you'll also see john boehner meeting with his conference at 1:00 p.m. i've been told by folks close to boehner that these -- it is by no means a done deal. he is keeping the door open to possibly amending the senate bill. now you think with the 9 votes they wouldn't want to do that, they'd want to put this to bed. but the house republicans have been known to scuttle these types of deals in the 11th hour before. there is some optimism on the senate side but over to the house side, if all goes to plan and they approve it all maybe we see a vote in the early evening but it could very much go into tomorrow if amended. >> you mentioned vice president biden coming back to step in again. it certainly seemed like he swoopd in at the 11th hour and helped bring this together. apparently he was very critical to these discussions. >> he's t
so what you're going to see is at noon, nancy pelosi is going to talk to the house democratic caucus. there have been some rumors that joe biden could come up here on new year's day to sell the plan, very much like he did to the senate ds earlier this morning. you'll also see john boehner meeting with his conference at 1:00 p.m. i've been told by folks close to boehner that these -- it is by no means a done deal. he is keeping the door open to possibly amending the senate bill. now you think...
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you get nancy pelosi in. and you shake it up. you give the republicans something so that they can save face pup make them raise taxes. at the end of the day, nobody's happy. but stability occurs. and the thing goes forward. i am continually surprised by president obama that he lets it become these dreadful enervating dramas. >> could i just say that when ronald reagan was president and everything peggy just said is absolutely true-- >> i'm so glad. ( laughter ). >> when ronald reagan was president, grover norquist was in diapers and rush limbaugh was a disk jockey, i think, in st. louis. you have had a hermetically sealed culture grow up on the right in this country that as we saw during the last election, is removed from reality and is extreme in the most egregious way. >> and you don't have to go all the way-- >> it's much further than that. when bill clinton passed that budget deal, he didn't get a single republican vote. and there hasn't been a republican vote for tax increases in 20 years, and if the deal falls apart today--
you get nancy pelosi in. and you shake it up. you give the republicans something so that they can save face pup make them raise taxes. at the end of the day, nobody's happy. but stability occurs. and the thing goes forward. i am continually surprised by president obama that he lets it become these dreadful enervating dramas. >> could i just say that when ronald reagan was president and everything peggy just said is absolutely true-- >> i'm so glad. ( laughter ). >> when ronald...
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i think if you get a deal, ali, you're probably going to get a deal where nancy pelosi and the house is going to have to produce a hundred or so votes from her caucus because you probably got at least 50 house republicans who just don't want to vote for any tax increase. you could possible that kind of deal together and if there's any chance of this getting done, it will be that kind of deal where you get 70 votes in the senate, democrats and republicans alike, and then you get maybe 100 republicans and a few more democrats than that that put it together in the house. but here is the point. we got these big fiscal problems, and this is -- ali, we're going to be talking about this for a year no matter what happens with the short-term deal because we still have the debt ceiling, we have a budget deal on the spending. we've got a big financial crisis on our hands, and this is, unfortunately, just act one. >> the sad part is we don't have to have anything that looks like a financial crisis. we could actually have a good economy. >> let me say one thing -- >> that's the problem. >> let me
i think if you get a deal, ali, you're probably going to get a deal where nancy pelosi and the house is going to have to produce a hundred or so votes from her caucus because you probably got at least 50 house republicans who just don't want to vote for any tax increase. you could possible that kind of deal together and if there's any chance of this getting done, it will be that kind of deal where you get 70 votes in the senate, democrats and republicans alike, and then you get maybe 100...